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    Ole Price Davis left an impression. I'd say this guy won. #bestobit #mckinneytx

    Price Davis Obituary - McKinney, TX | Tyler Morning Telegraph

    Here's a card stop pic......

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaDan View Post
    Fishing boats in harms way.

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    Well. You would be able to see them if I didn't have sunscreen all over the camera lens. I mean if we weren't going 167 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92nsx View Post
    God's Speed.

    Drives, they look to be tucked way in.

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    what is that suppose to mean..........??

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    Normally at high speeds, drives are trimmed out... I heard the boat rolled.

    When the bow is too flat in the water at high (planing) speeds. The chines will "grab" and pull the boat to one side.

    Just trying to make since of what happened.

    Besides that it is just what i noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Short-Bus View Post
    what is that suppose to mean..........??
    Don't you think that odd SB? We get a lot of bow steer if we trim down like that at any kind of speed (not to mention a lot of bow spray). I'm not saying that a 50 OL has comparable handling to a 25 Islander, but it seems an odd position for the drives in a boat running any sort of speed (planning).
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    Not really, I've never driven nor been on a #6 boat so I cant say anything about drive trim attitude when accelerating, one thing I do know is that most #6 boats run aeration tubes that make the prop slip or cavitation so they can start accelerating, were talking about a 50' boat probably weighing in the 15k range with big power, I would think its not uncommon for a boat like this to be running 70-80 mph with the drives still in the starting position. jmo....... at this time we don't even know if Joe was driving, Im sure some details are soon to follow.
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    Well you know more than me. I have never driven a surface drive boat at all.

    With our deep drive, I'm trimming up as soon as we get on plane.

    Thanks

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    Looking at the card stop pic, it appears Joe was a passenger. I hope for the sake of learning we get some investigative feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hook'em View Post
    Looking at the card stop pic, it appears Joe was a passenger. I hope for the sake of learning we get some investigative feedback.
    that would be nice, I read that there may of been a potential buyer on board, but no confirmation, nor any word on the condition of the 3 passengers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaDan View Post
    Well you know more than me. I have never driven a surface drive boat at all.

    With our deep drive, I'm trimming up as soon as we get on plane.

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    All boats have different driving characteristics and some of you guys have a lot more time behind the wheel of a boat than I do, Im sure I will have a learning curve when speedy goes on the water in the spring.

    Edit: remember I just pull em around............
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    Quote Originally Posted by hook'em View Post
    I hope for the sake of learning we get some investigative feedback.
    That would be nice. It seems that recently "political correctness" or "being overly sensitive" has prevented this sort of discussion. That is unfortunate. There is no blame to be cast (well, I'm sure there will be but that's crazy also), but there are lessons to be learned.

    I can tell you from racing cars and bikes that nothing in your normal world prepares you for how fast things happen in that environment. It seems benign when all is well, but it can get out of hand quickly. The only way to counter that is to have a lot of experience (Catch 22) or learn what you can from those that have done it before.

    In the world of boating, particularly offshore boating, the environment is constantly changing. Recognizing that change and identifying those conditions which may be a problem early enough to do something about it is part of having a successful outing. Now the problem is that most of us just don't get to boat that much. Put that lack of experience, and more importantly, recent experience, in combination with boats running 60+ (which is where I arbitrarily draw the line separating pleasure boating from high performance boating) and you have a recipe for disaster. 100+ is just crazy fast on the water and yet there are boats that do that effortlessly.

    So. Perhaps we will hear something and be able to learn. I bet not though.
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    Has anyone heard from Ray? I saw they had a 6.5 quake. I texted him Saturday night and didn't get a reply. I think the quake was yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hook'em View Post
    Has anyone heard from Ray? I saw they had a 6.5 quake. I texted him Saturday night and didn't get a reply. I think the quake was yesterday.
    CR seems to have a lot of quakes. 6.5 probably didn't register on the Ray Belch Scale (RBS).
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    Seeing reports of very little damage and varied reports of the event on the RBS. Some saying not bad, others saying it was very strong shaking. He prolly slept through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaDan View Post
    CR seems to have a lot of quakes. 6.5 probably didn't register on the Ray Belch Scale (RBS).
    Scooter didn't even wake up. Pretty good shake though. Knocked all the beer off the shelves at the stores near the epicenter. We felt it pretty good from 30 miles away; lasted about 15 seconds. Have had close to 100 aftershocks; I just now felt another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilsr View Post
    Have had close to 100 aftershocks; I just now felt another one.
    Are you sure Nat is not just happy to see you again?
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    Back to boat handling. Learning has two methods, experience or being taught and then having the opportunity to put those lessons into practice gaining positive experience. It must be remembered that learning by experience can be both positive and negative.

    One thing I have trouble with is judging when to hit a wave off the bow (contact on the quarter). Many times if you hit the wave (wake) on the quarter you effectively lengthen the wave and ride right over it in a much smoother manner than you would if you hit it bow on. Other times (most for me) the boat slams into the wave with a big slap earning derogatory looks from the first mate.

    So how do you guys handle that situation? How do you judge when to take an approaching wave on the bow and when on the quarter? I am beginning to think that any breaking wave should be handled bow on, but I know I have been slammed on large wakes that weren't breaking. Lets face it, if you have to turn bow on for every wake you're doing a lot of zigzagging.

    And no, "buy a bigger boat" is not an acceptable answer.

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    Buy a bigger boat. Is the proper answer.

    I pay little attention on random wakes. The 272 does pretty good. I credit the length along with dead rise. She will get a little squirrely when stepping outside the wake of a leading boat if you are parallel to the roller when you cross. Otherwise when navigating wind driven chop I'll tac if needed to keep them head on or no more than quartering (off the beam). I don't know if that makes sense or not.

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    Bigger boat.. Its what the cool kid are doing , LOL

    at 13 seconds I see a fishing boat. Better hide form other members . That is unsafe

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    That's the reason I waited to pass Lt Dan. Also why we're running on the wrong side of the ditch.

    Where in the world is JB? I'm starting to worry about the kid.
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